Karen interviews Gordon Permann, long-time volunteer at the San
Diego Air & Space Museum Annex at Gillespie Field, on the Ryan
X-13!
About the Podcast
The Unusual History of Every Thing is a podcast for lovers of the weird history of common things in our world. Join cultural object preservationists Melanie Dellas and Karen Lacy as they uncover the unusual histories of every thing around us. New episodes every Tuesday!